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Episode 262: Secondaries Offer Liquidity Opportunity for Well-Informed Investors With Competitive Edge

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA, is joined by Jeff Akers, head of private equity secondaries at Adam Street Partners, to discuss the growing importance of private equity secondaries in insurance portfolios. Jeff shares his expertise on how this asset class helps investors avoid the J-curve, provides a shorter duration investment with predictable cash flows, and delivers fixed-income-like characteristics with equity-level upside.

 

From the basics of private equity secondaries to their strategic fit for insurers prioritizing stable returns, this conversation dives deep into the advantages of investing in a market that has grown from $10 billion to $150 billion over the past 18 years. Learn why this undercapitalized market offers insurers opportunities for diversification, lower risk, and potentially enhanced portfolio performance.

Episode 261: The Future of Real Estate Debt: Uncovering Hidden Investment Opportunities

Join host Stewart Foley as he sits down with Doug Bouquard, Partner and Head of Real Estate Credit at TPG, to explore the evolving landscape of real estate debt. Doug shares his journey into the industry and highlights the current shifts in the market, including the retreat of banks from traditional lending and the growing role of private credit. He discusses how these changes create new opportunities for insurers to fill the gap and capitalize on asset-backed lending that aligns with their long-term liabilities.

 

The conversation dives into key trends driving real estate credit, from dislocations in specific sectors like office to opportunities in housing and industrial properties. Doug explains how scalable strategies in real estate debt can be customized to meet insurers’ unique needs, offering attractive risk-adjusted returns and downside protection. With insights into market dynamics, borrower relationships, and the growing institutionalization of newer asset classes like build-to-rent, this episode delivers actionable perspectives for insurance investors.

Episode 260: Behind the Numbers: Insights from Quant Experts at Principal Asset Management, StepStone Group, and Fidelity Investments

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast, our host Stewart Foley, CFA, dives into the fascinating world of quantitative methods in insurance asset management with experts from Principal Asset Management, StepStone Group, and Fidelity Investments. Together, they explore how data-driven strategies are transforming portfolio construction, risk assessment, and liquidity management in private markets. From understanding how quants develop models to navigating the unique challenges of private markets, this episode delivers actionable insights for institutional investors.

 

Learn how quantitative approaches help identify opportunities, mitigate risks, and drive smarter investment decisions. Whether you’re curious about how quants build tailored solutions or the latest trends in private real estate and equity, this conversation is packed with expert perspectives and practical knowledge for today’s insurance asset managers.

Episode 259: Demystifying Real Estate Credit

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast, host Stewart Foley welcomes Nailah Flake, Managing Partner and Head of Real Estate Debt at Brookfield. Nailah shares her unique career journey, from teaching dance to leading real estate credit at one of the largest asset managers globally.

 

Together, they discuss the vast and diverse real estate market, touching on compelling sectors like industrial, housing, and alternative asset classes. Nailah provides insights into the mechanics of real estate credit, its differences from corporate credit, and the evolving landscape amid rising interest rates, market volatility, and bank retrenchment. She also highlights Brookfield’s approach to lending, leveraging its extensive expertise and global footprint.

 

In addition to offering a masterclass on real estate debt, Nailah shares career advice for young professionals, emphasizing adaptability and resilience in navigating a changing industry. Tune in for an inspiring conversation filled with actionable insights.

Episode 258: Fixed Income Deep Dive: Understanding Private Placement Investments

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com podcast, host Stewart Foley welcomes Nelson Correa, Head of Private Placements at NEAM. Nelson discusses what makes private placements an attractive asset class for insurers, offering higher spreads than public bonds while maintaining strong covenant protections. He addresses liquidity misconceptions, explains how private placements are structured, and highlights their role in helping insurers achieve long-term investment goals.

 

Nelson also shares insights into NEAM’s enhanced private placement capabilities following his team’s addition and provides a market outlook, identifying opportunities in infrastructure and family-owned companies. Tune in to learn how private placements can offer insurers a compelling mix of yield, security, and diversification.

Episode 257: High Yield Real Estate Lending: Navigating the Shifting Landscape

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast, host Stewart Foley sits down with Bill Maclay, CFA, portfolio manager at Fidelity Investments, to explore the evolving landscape of high-yield real estate lending. With banks pulling back and a significant volume of commercial real estate debt maturing over the next three years, Bill shares how private lenders are stepping up to fill the gap. He provides an in-depth look at Fidelity's real estate platform, their approach to navigating current market challenges, and the opportunities for investors in middle-market lending.

 

From bridge loans to construction financing and gap funding, Bill explains how Fidelity has positioned itself to address a supply-demand imbalance in commercial real estate debt. This episode offers valuable insights into the dynamics of property types, regional bank exposure, and the role of private capital in shaping the future of high-yield real estate lending.

Episode 256: Best Practices for Portfolio Construction in Private Assets

Join host Stewart Foley on the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast as we dive into the intricacies of private asset portfolio construction with insights from Bryan Jenkins and Eric Solfisburg of Hamilton Lane. This episode explores how a strategic approach to portfolio construction—focusing on factors like asset allocation, investment pacing, and liquidity management—can enhance outcomes for insurance investors. With over three decades in private markets, Hamilton Lane shares its expertise on balancing return and risk while managing the challenges of data and transparency that are unique to this asset class.

 

The conversation also covers the vital considerations around data and analytics, industry exposure, and the often-overlooked factor of asset location for insurers. Jenkins and Solfisburg emphasize the importance of a consistent, disciplined approach to private asset allocation, discussing tools and techniques Hamilton Lane uses to support sophisticated portfolio strategies. For insurers navigating private markets, this episode offers a valuable guide to constructing resilient, well-diversified portfolios that align with insurance-specific risk management needs.

Episode 255: CLO Market Pulse with Ian Gilbertson of Invesco

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA, sits down with Ian Gilbertson, CLO Portfolio Manager and Co-Head of U.S. CLOs at Invesco, for a deep dive into the world of Collateralized Loan Obligations (CLOs) and their role in insurance investment portfolios. Ian provides a primer on CLOs, explaining their structure, the types of assets they hold, and why this asset class has shown such resilience and stability.

 

They discuss the growth of CLOs in insurance company portfolios, their historical performance, and why they continue to attract insurers even amid changing regulatory requirements. Ian also shares his insights on current opportunities in the loan market, the evolving credit cycle, and the outlook for CLOs in 2025, especially in a declining rate environment. Ian brings extensive expertise to the conversation, offering both high-level context and practical insights into the risks and rewards of this asset class for insurers.

Episode 254: Demystifying OCIO for Insurance Companies

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com podcast, Stewart Foley hosts Olaolu Aganga, U.S. Chief Investment Officer at Mercer, and Stephanie Thomas, Senior Investment Consultant at Mercer, to discuss the evolving role of OCIO (Outsourced Chief Investment Officer) services for insurance companies. They explore how Mercer's model uniquely integrates support for clients by combining Marsh McLennan’s insurance expertise with Mercer's deep investment consulting resources. Olaolu and Stephanie clarify how OCIO can function either as a full or partial extension of an insurance company's in-house team, offering a range of services from research support to full discretionary management.

 

With the growing complexity in private credit, asset-backed finance (ABF), and investment-grade alternatives, Stephanie explains how OCIO services can support insurers in navigating these emerging asset classes, providing an adaptable, client-specific approach. Olaolu highlights the partnership aspect of Mercer’s model, emphasizing that OCIO clients retain control over strategy while benefiting from Mercer's extensive resources and industry insights.

Episode 253: Capitalizing on the Shift in Private Credit: Strategies for Insurance Companies

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com podcast, Stewart Foley hosts Armen Panossian, co-CEO and Head of Performing Credit at Oaktree Capital, for a deep dive into insurers' role in alternative investing, especially in private credit. Armen shares insights on the evolving sentiment in today’s markets, where economic fundamentals, regulatory influences, and the effects of recent rate hikes are shaping debt and equity strategies. He details how technical and regulatory shifts, like the implementation of Basel III in the U.S., are creating new avenues for insurers to capitalize on asset-backed finance while banks retreat from specific lending areas. Armen emphasizes that private credit remains a valuable asset class for insurers, especially given the long-term growth and diversification opportunities it provides alongside efficient rating structures.

 

Looking ahead, Armen sees opportunity in sectors where expertise drives returns, such as specialty finance and asset-backed lending. He also highlights the unique value of rescue lending as more companies face refinancing challenges due to high interest rates. For insurers, he advises considering the distinct advantages of rated feeder note structures to optimize capital efficiency in corporate credit and exploring asset-backed finance for diversification.