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Tune in to the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast, hosted by our Managing Partner, Stewart Foley, CFA. Our podcast features insightful conversations with CIOs, asset managers, and other distinguished professionals in the insurance asset management industry. Each episode delves into the latest trends, challenges, and opportunities, providing listeners with valuable perspectives and practical advice. Don’t miss out on these engaging discussions that are essential for insurance investors and asset managers.
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Monday Jan 29, 2024
Episode 198: A Deep Dive into EMD with Aegon AM’s Jeff Grills
Monday Jan 29, 2024
Monday Jan 29, 2024
In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast, host Stewart Foley is joined by Jeff Grills, CFA, Head of US Cross Markets and Emerging Markets Debt at Aegon Asset Management, to delve into the evolving landscape of emerging markets debt (EMD). Jeff shares his extensive experience in EMD, highlighting the growth and maturation of the asset class over the past few decades. They discuss the periods when EMD was most attractive for insurance investors and explore the factors driving its current appeal, including high yields and improved credit quality.
Jeff also provides insights into the challenges and opportunities for insurers when allocating to EMD, particularly in light of global events and central bank activities. He emphasizes the importance of country selection, governance, and understanding the unique risks and rewards associated with this diverse asset class. As the discussion unfolds, listeners will gain a deeper understanding of how to navigate EMD in today’s complex market environment and why it remains a compelling option for insurance portfolios.
The episode wraps up with Jeff sharing some valuable investment wisdom and his thoughts on the broader implications of EMD for insurers. Whether you're new to EMD or looking to refine your strategy, this episode offers a wealth of insights and practical advice.